What’s the difference between a playground bully and a really bad boss?

bullies About two feet six inches. When I was about eight years old, a future inmate inhabiting the body of an eight year old boy and two of his future cell mates met me in the street after school. They cornered me on the sidewalk and the ringleader punched me square in the gut. I’m not sure how child bullies operate these days, but back then, at least this one, wanted to be sure I understood why he was pushing my eight year old uterus waaay back into my spinal column. In class earlier that day, I, usually very attentive and alert, put my head on my desk. My concerned teacher asked me what was wrong and when I told her I had a headache, she immediately chastised the entire class, focusing in on the future inmate.  That one, seemingly kind act on her part, led to my first memorable encounter with a bully. 

To this day I remember the physical pain and the embarrassment of being beaten up in the street. I remember the emotional hurt associated with being bullied despite having done nothing wrong. And I remember, even at that young age, thinking through my tears “this boy is going to end up in prison someday.”  Fast forward thirty years and I remember having the same feelings about one of my really bad bosses. Although much less sure that he’d end up in prison, I recognized him for the thuggish little boy he really was, picking on his employees, blaming others for his mistakes and wielding his power like a rock hard fist. At about five-six, the major difference between him and my eight year old tormentor was about two feet, six inches.

As adults, the pain of verbal bullying and the emotional hurt suffered at the hands of bad bosses while not physical, can be just as painful. Unless you’ve had to deal with a really bad boss, it’s difficult to imagine the toll it takes on your well-being and piece of mind. Until I grew the thick skin of three time really bad boss survivor, my tormented days filled with bullying bosses would end with sleepless nights worrying about what the following day would bring.  It was a vicious cycle in which I lost sleep, hope and self confidence. It wasn’t a complete loss though. I did manage to gain weight (not so good), an understanding of bullying bosses (good), and the strength to deal with other bullies who would eventually cross my path (really good).  I realized a universal truth about bullies – their bullying behavior had much more to do with them than with me.

Although it would be sweet revenge to say that my former bullies ended up fired, in jail and/or penniless, the truth is, most of my bullies are probably exactly where I left them. My playground tormenter might be in high school now, and I know for a fact that his bad boss counterpart is still tormenting souls and crafting harebrained schemes to hide his incompetence. Thankfully though, I’ve moved on. Gone are the days when an unkind word or ill conceived plan would send me reeling for days. But the memory is still there.  And believe it or not, I’m grateful for it. The memory serves as a vivid reminder of a painful position I never want to be in again.

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    Bullying boss
    When you have a person like Jeff Ursino, as a member of the board of trustee in Pajaro Valley Unified School District, you compromise that district. Google his name so you can understand what a bully he was towards my family and pray for the children of PVUSD. He is not the best choice for the kids and the only reason he is getting this post is because no one opposed him, so now they are stuck with him. He is heartless, fired me 12 days before Christmas, via UPS and for no good reason, breaking California labor codes and more, while I was ill and with a workers comp case pending, goodluck to all he makes choices for . All I was trying to do was be there for my daughter but he didnt care, oh and I was ill, he had the doctors note stating I would not be back until the 16th and he fired me on the 13th, but I didnt know until the 15th, what a guy…This really saids a lot about the way he treats people and what is important, once a bully always a bully, especially when you bully as an adult and enjoy doing it.And yet the bank never fired him but my tax dollars bailed them out, where is the justice??
    PVUSD
    And Jeff Ursino is definetly not your superman PVUSD, you are trying to save the schools and their budget. Ask Jeff what his “choices” cost and good luck and my prayers to the children that he will be making choices for…hope he doenst bully the rest of the trustees to get his way.Remind him that there are rules, laws, policy and procedures in life and they are there for a reason, not to be ignore by someone who is out to get someone no matter what it cost them or others.
    Just pray that he has found a heart and some kindness and that he doesnt go on another power trip. Hopefully he will follow the rules and laws and not bully anyone as he did me. I sent him an email asking him why he did this and he has yet to reply and being the weak man he is, hiding behind whatever he can, I will not hear from him.There is something wrong and just plain mean about firing someone for no good reason and 12 days before Christmas. He states parents need to be involved and that is all I was trying to do, not just for my daughter but for those whos parents didnt have a car, I would offer rides to those who needed it.The way he was elected needs to change. Now he isnt campaigning , so he doesnt even have to work for this post. So how much did he raise, who is endorsing him,what did he do with the money he raised? He wanted people to join him for a night of food, fun and fellowship? Has he asked God to forgive him for the way he treated me? And how important will your childs needs be to him or is it all about power? Did Jeff think that he could treat someone like this and that he would get away with it? That this would just stay in some closet and if he didnt think about it it would go away. Well there is a good reason why the good Lord had me hang on to all my evidence. If you are running for some public office, check your closet first.Has he learned to be fair and equal? Who decided he was the best choice for PVUSD,him? What a joke.He had all the tools to do his job correctly and just decided not to, good luck to all who have to deal with him, my prayers to his wife and kids and PVUSD.

    Regarding the following statement
    “Jeff Ursino believes parents should play a more active role in Pajaro Valley schools, and with one son entering Aptos Junior High and another kindergarten at Rio del Mar Elementary, he’s making his move.”
    Yet he fired me for putting my daughters needs first. I had told him that my daughter had been followed home one day and that I needed to be there for her after school and on weekends. We even filed a police report. I told him how many sex offenders lived within 1/2 a mile of my house, but he just didn’t care. My hours were changed from 5p.m. to 3 p.m., by the previous manager, although Jeff tried to take credit for that. One of Jeffs ideas was for me to bring my daughter to work and put her in the back room to watch videos, wow. But that was never approved by his boss, not to mention the liability to the employer. Before you vote, understand that while I was out ill,due to stress, anxiety and blood pressure issue, due to Jeff bullying me and threating me with “job abandoment” yet I had doctors notes not to go to work but he wrote me up for not going to work, Jeff never called to see how I was doing, but when he fired me via UPS, in that envelope he included my doctors note which was faxed into him the day prior. He claims that he called me to see if I was coming in , yet the faxed in doctors note clearly stated that I would be out untill the 16th. He fired me on the 13th. And I still have all of these papers and letter from Jeff Ursino. Tax payers need to know who they are voting for. How does Jeff feel about bullying in the school system? Or the work place?
    Subject: before you vote? Fired by Jeff Ursino, a manager with no heart and he wants to make choices for the children of PVSD
    Before you vote for Jeff Ursino ask yourself if the choices he made when he fired a working mother, via UPS, while at home ill…due to stress brought on by the way he treated this mother..was that the best choice for all parties concerned? Jeff could have made alot better choices but he made the choice to be unprofessional and didn’t bother following policy and procedure> Why?
    Here is a letter from a concerned customer
    March 25, 2006 Dear Ms. Deloney,
    I would like to take a moment and thank you for responding to my comments regarding Damari and the manager. I am sure that you are a very busy and important person and I appreciate your time. Damari is truly missed at the bank, since her unfair termination by the manger, the atmosphere at the bank is boring to say the least. Damari added life and laughter and she enjoyed serving the customers. I feel deeply, that the manager made a huge mistake in dismissing her while she was ill. What kind of a manager would dismiss an employee while they are ill?
    As I say this, I now have further concerns about another teller name Andrea. I was in the bank and was told that she has injured her knee and will be out of work for about six weeks. I’m sure that Andrea has a doctors note as Damari did, I hope that the manager doesn’t make the same mistake and decides to terminate her and mail her a letter before she returns as he did Damari when he terminated her instead of waiting for her to get well and return to work. Although I would understand if he were let her go as she spends most of her time at work doing her homework , reading and she isn’t available everyday. Andrea will move on, on her own to become a teacher, this is what she goes to school for two days a week. By her going to school, I feel this puts a strain on the staff. I understand that the rest of the tellers along with Kathleen are now having to work six days a week and Kathleen is running a window: she doesn’t have the charm or customer service skills which Damari offered the bank.
    We go into the bank often and we rarely see that manager. I feel that it would be in the best interest of the bank to find a permanent manager as soon as possible, one whom appreciates competent employees as Damari. Frankly, I don’t understand how a temporary manager was given the authority to dismiss an employee such as Damari with her wonderful skills , talents and dedication to her job. Therefore my concerns are now for Andrea whom doesn’t compare with the kind of service Damari offered your customers. As I stated before, the other tellers spend too much time speaking to customers about personal things and shopping on the computer instead of banking conversations. I frequently witness them reading and eating while at their windows: this is very unprofessional.
    I feel it would be in the best interest to Citibank to launch a complete investigation on the manager, as you stated would be done and seriously consider removing him from Carmel. In my opinion since he arrived the atmosphere is tense and if I can sense it I am sure that other customers do. This manager has taken all the personal touch and charm out of the bank and I feel the employees fear for their jobs: no one should have to work under those conditions. Keeping this manager at this or any branch is sure to destroy you business. Again, thank you for your letter and taking the time to look into this situation.
    Sincerely, Clifford Bagwell

    Can the school district afford to have such a heartless man making choices for the children?
    I have a 13 page letter I wrote to Jeff Ursino, pleading my case but he just couldn’t meet me in the middle. He fired me while I was at home ill. Why couldn’t he wait for me to return to work? He had the doctors note which stated I would be out until the 16th, so why not wait, follow the rules, policy and procedure? As a manager he didn’t do his job right and cost his employer alot of trouble. Any good manager would known that there are labor laws which must be followed but Jeff Ursino made the choice to ignor them. Jeff is not the best choice for the children.
    I was the only spanish speaking teller at the branch. Was it the best choice for the customers which depended on my spanish to do their banking? Was that the best choice he could make?
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    When Jeff fired me, 12 days before christmas and in the process broke Califofrnia labor laws and also didn’t follow the banks firing policy or procedure and all this caused my daughter and family alot of heartache, was it the best choice he could make. Was it fair for my daughter to feel guilty that her mom had lost her job all because she was wanting to continue to care for her daughter, was that the best choice for my daughter. Imagine how she felt and how sad. She worried about the holidays coming up and now mom lost her job just because Jeff didn’t care about her needs or life style. I have every letter and notes from that awful choice he made. I don’t feel he is qualified to be making choices for any child that isn’t his. I feel the public has a right to know how uncaring and heartless he and his actions were to my daughter and my family. I have a letter where Jeff states he was calling me to see if I was coming into work, yet with my letter of termination he includes that very note which was faxed into the bank the day before by my doctor,but he made the heartless choice to fire me while I was at home ill. What kind of a person fires an employee while they are at home ill, with a doctors note? With a pending workers comp case. A heartless and uncaring man. His choice changed our lives forever. Why didn’t he follow the firing procudures? I have eveyone of my reviews by the bank and over 50 letters from customers which enjoyed my work at the bank. So if as a manager Jeff decided not to follow policy and procedure of the company and or the labor code of California, what qualifies him to make choices which could affect the children of Pajaro Valley School? Does Jeff have education on Childhood deveolpment? As a tax payer in California, our residence have a right to know what he did to my family if he is going to be making choices on behalf of your children
    It is my opinion that Jeff Ursino is not the best choice for the children

    I think it is strange that Jeff thinks he is the best choice for the chiildren after what he did to my daughter and the lack of concern for her needs. Was it the right choice for her, for him to fire me the way he did and that my daughter felt that it was her fault that I was fired? Was it the right choice for my daughter to see me upset over what he had done? What qualifies him to say that he is the best choice for any child? Did he go back to school and learn more about what our childrens’ needs and how important it is for our teenagers to have their parents around? Jeff wanted me to bring my daughter to work and put her in the back room to atch videos, is that the best choice for a child? What if the bank had been robbed and what about the liabilty to the bank? Did he get that approved? No…Was it right for Jeff to try and have me break my word to my daughter?
    and then there was this power trip..
    Damari commented on this story on CBS News.
    I was told once by Jeff Ursino, a manager of a bank, that I no longer was allowed to wear hats, which I had been wearing for the prior four years, with no problems from anyone else. He claimed it was part of dress code policy, but corporate said that it was his own rule. He made me stop wearing them and a few weeks later, he decided that I could wear them but only twice a week. So was he just on a POWER kick??He had us read the dress code policy which stated nothing against hats, but he wanted me to know that he was the new boss and he made the rules as they suited him. So why take the hats away, if indeed it was a corporate policy and or why then tell me I can wear them and go against “corporate” never did make sense to me, just a power trip. What do you think? He later fired me for something even stupider than that, another power play I guess??

    In Pajaro Valley’s Area 7, La Selva Beach and Rio del Mar, Jeff Ursino is running. He lists his occupation as a business manager and parent.As a business manager he failed to follow policy and procedure, costing the bank a lawsuit and as a parent he didn’t care about my daughters needs and safety. The voters have a right to know that his choices aren’t good choices. Jeff claims to be the best choice for the children, how did he decide this? Just because no one is running against him doesn’t mean he shold get the post, he needs to be voted in by the parents of PVUSD.
    Just pray that he has found a heart and some kindness and that he doesnt go on another power trip. Hopefully he will follow the rules and laws and not bully anyone as he did me. I sent him an email asking him why he did this and he has yet to reply and being the weak man he is, hiding behind whatever he can, I will not hear from him.There is something wrong and just plain mean about firing someone for no good reason and 12 days before Christmas. He states parents need to be involved and that is all I was trying to do, not just for my daughter but for those whos parents didnt have a car, I would offer rides to those who needed it.The way he was elected needs to change. Now he isnt campaigning , so he doesnt even have to work for this post. So how much did he raise, who is endorsing him,what did he do with the money he raised? He wanted people to join him for a night of food, fun and fellowship? Has he asked God to forgive him for the way he treated me? And how important will your childs needs be to him or is it all about power? Did Jeff think that he could treat someone like this and that he would get away with it? That this would just stay in some closet and if he didnt think about it it would go away. Well there is a good reason why the good Lord had me hang on to all my evidence. If you are running for some public office, check your closet first.Has he learned to be fair and equal? Who decided he was the best choice for PVUSD,him? What a joke.He had all the tools to do his job correctly and just decided not to, good luck to all who have to deal with him, my prayers to his wife and kids and PVUSD.

    Dear Senator Barbara Boxer, Re: Response by the U.S. Department of Labor

    I agree that I mentioned to Ronan that the bank had violated the Family and
    Medical Leave Act, but I don’t believe that I said , I was fired for taking
    FMLA. I have never felt that I was fired for that reason. FMLA was never
    brought up to me by the bank, FMLA was brought up to me by Met Life after
    papers were filed for STD. In fact, Met Life had told me not to fill out the
    papers for FMLA just STD and LTD.
    In, October 2005 I was told that the bank was going to start opening on
    Saturday, I explained to the manager that this would be stressful and a
    financial burden for my family and I. I explained that my husband worked
    Saturdays and my daughters was involved in sports, on the volleyball team and
    that I was team mom. I explained to him that I feared leaving my daughter
    alone because I had been raped at her age and molested earlier in life. I
    explained that earlier that year my daughter had been followed home and that
    is why I was cutting my hours back from 5 to 3. A police report was filed
    with Seaside PD. I also explained to the bank how many child molesters there
    our within  ½ mile of my house, and I explained that my daughter had
    tryouts on Nov. 5, 2005 in Salinas and my husband was already scheduled to
    work. Although the manager had two other tellers scheduled for that day he
    would not allow me to change weekends. On Nov. 7 and 8, my blood pressure was
    up and the doctor told me to take the rest of day off on the 7th and the 8th.
    Although I did not wish to work Saturdays to care for my daughter , the
    manager had asked me to go home and talk to my family, which I did. The
    manager also suggested that I bring my daughter to work and have her go in
    the back room and watch videos. The manger asked me to meet him half way and
    at least work one. After talking to my family I asked if I could work on the
    3rd Saturday of every month along with my 5 days a week scheduled, my husband
    agreed to take the 3rd Saturday of each month off to tend to my daughters
    needs. Two days or so after I discussed this with the manager he calls me
    just as I am getting off of work and said “:sorry it will have to be 2
    Saturdays a month. Yet a teller with less seniority and not as good as I was
    asked for Tuesdays and Thursdays off and it was granted. I was only asking
    for one day off a month she was asking for 8 days off a month and she
    requested this about 3 weeks after my request.
    On the first Saturday that I was schedule they already had 2 other tellers
    and the managers boss had spoken to me on my cell phone while I was at the
    doctors office with my daughter waiting to see the doctor. I told her that my
    daughter had tryouts and that I was driving her there as long has she wasn’t
    to ill to tryout. My daughters ended up having bronchitis . During our
    conversation I had said I wouldn’t be in and the manager had also been told
    along with the supervisor but I was threaten with a write up if I didn’t go
    in. Why was the manager flexible with Andrea schedule and not mine. Why was
    it ok for her to do her homework at the counter, leave about $10,000.00 out
    and never get written up?
    The manager wrote me up, 5 days later, he could have written me up on the
    7th, 8th, 9th, but didn’t , he wrote me up after getting my letter and
    calling me to find out if the letter was just for him, which it was. The
    following Saturday that I was scheduled was the 19th, and on the 17th I had
    gone to the doctors, after work, my blood pressure was up again and the
    doctor put me out of work for the 18th, 19th,and 20th. The state that in
    early November, 2005, that I didn’t show up to work during the week, this is
    a LIE and I had always called in. The only time that I personally didn’t call
    in was on12/12/05 because my doctor had called in for me due to my blood
    pressure and also faxed in a note. Andrea had her mother call in for her and
    she didn’t get fired but my doctor calls in for me and I get fired, why? The
    bank did not decide to terminate me in November, Jeff Ursino decided to
    terminate me because I ask that I be contacted via email to protect me
    health. If the bank had decided to fire me then were was my final check and
    exit interview and why fire me in the middle of a workers comp pending case?
    California codes were not follow by Jeff Ursino . When I requested my file
    there was no notes that I record had been reviewed or that HR gave Jeff
    Ursino permission to fire me, why? I was given a medical note not to work on
    Dec. 6th and then it was extended on Dec. 12 -16th. the bank states or the
    letter from US Dept. Of Labor that I sent in my note at the same time that I
    was being sent the termination letter, yet another lie.
    Kathleen had been faxed the disability note on the 12th of Dec. Jeff Ursino
    decided to fire me on 12/13/05, sometime after 1:45 pm, after reading my
    email. At that point the manager suggested to HR that I be terminated
    immediately, although he acknowledges receiving my email. I f the termination
    letter was being sent out at the same time I was sending my note in were was
    my final paycheck? The bank rescinded the termination because I did not
    qualify for unemployment and State disability due to a program the bank
    carries. But had I not gone thru these steps they would not have rescinded
    their decision. They rescinded , in my opinion because they realized that
    Jeff Ursino had made some errors, they ignored that I was ill and they
    realized that he fired me during an open workers comp case. In fact, Chrys ,
    of HR ,called Carla at Travelers Insurance for workers comp on the 14th of
    Dec. 2005 to see how the case was going, at that point she was told that it
    would probably be denied, but she never mention to workers comp that I had
    been terminated via UPS the day before. I did not apply for workers comp at
    the end of my Short Term Disability Leave Plan, the workers comp case was
    started 11/22/05, or so.
    Again just more lies by the bank, Jeff Ursino and Kathleen .
    The bank continues to give false statements. Please don’t stop helping us
    they are not telling the truth. You have returned my binder to me, thank you
    , but the proof is all in there, now what do I do? The bank did not behave in
    good faith, not fair and equal treatment of all employees. They would tell
    clients that I left to work for my husband or that I was on vacation,
    anything but the truth.I still have all paper work to back what I have
    stated.

  • http://reallybadboss.com denised2

    Don't worry, if he's as bad as you say he is, he probably already has a reservation! Thanks for commenting.

  • http://reallybadboss.com denised2

    Don't worry, if he's as bad as you say he is, he probably already has a reservation! Thanks for commenting.

  • http://www.bankers.com/ LEV GRIDLEY

    MY OLD BOSS KEVIN AT ADVISYS BULLIED ME HE HAD SOME ISSUES I HOPE HE GOES TO HELL.

  • http://reallybadboss.com denised2

    Unfortunately for me, I've been on the receiving end of a lot of that deplorable behavior.

    I also realized that I featured one of your articles in my Really Bad Boss Blog Roundup today. Thanks for the great advice, and thanks for commenting!

  • http://reallybadboss.com denised2

    Unfortunately for me, I've been on the receiving end of a lot of that deplorable behavior.

    I also realized that I featured one of your articles in my Really Bad Boss Blog Roundup today. Thanks for the great advice, and thanks for commenting!

  • http://www.tanglingwithtyrants.com/ Tony Deblauwe

    Thanks for sharing. Many of these behaviors are deplorable and rising. Best thing employees can do is manage expectations and common business goals.